Hello there, hope every has been having a good week.
I got to travel across Portugal last week on some family business, heading to a part of the Alentejo that I hadn't visited. In this part of the country there are various hilltop towns with castles, that have these commanding views over the countryside to neighbouring Spain.
They are amazing places, these towns perched on pinnacles of rock and I was looking forward to photographing there...but sadly the weather was grey and cloudy all day. The light was flat and boring, and in light like that, no matter how dramatic the setting it will always look flat.
Here's a pretty typical example from the day

Driving back along the motorway, the clouds cleared and the light was magnificent for the last 15 minutes of the day..but there was nowhere to stop so I just had to appreciate it through the car window.
That's the way it is with landscapes..but I'll be back again another time, and one day I'll get the shot I want

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My question of the week is about the black magic art of colour space management.
I'm curious about how people go about this, and would like to hear what people use in camera, in post processing, for web output and for printing.
One of the things that annoys me about photography on the web is that it looks different in different browsers. Safari for example is automatically colour managed, whilst Firefox isn't. IE can be, but you need to turn it on (as far as I know, I don't use IE).
The result of this is that my photos look different on my computer at home depending on which browser I'm using...which is annoying.
Most Mac applications are set up for sRGB, which isn't a problem for me. When I get my work printed out, the printers they use give me better colours from sRGB files than they do from Adobe RGB files....something I've discovered after a lot of experimentation.
My camera is set to sRGB, which as far as I know because I shot RAW only effects the embedded JPEGs that are used on the camera's LCD and for preview thumbs.
I RAW process in Apple Aperture, which uses sRGB and I've got Photoshop set up to sRGB too. All my output to web or the printer is sRGB (the printer for the reasons I explained above. The place where I get my prints done works better with sRGB files).
The only problem with my set up is that my photos look how they should ONLY when viewed in Safari on the web. In Firefox they lack a little in the warm areas, particularly orange...although I'm sure many people might not see the difference.
I've played around with colour spaces in camera and on my computer, but short of changing my workflow completely, I can't find a way to get them to match...and I'm reluctant to change when I've got a way that gives me great prints, which to me is the most important thing.
I've checked out other people's images and while many also appear different in different browsers, some people's appear the same.
So there you go, that's my question...how do people handle colour management?
I'm particularly interesting in hearing from anyone who use Mac.
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I have a workflow where I'm happy with the output and can get prints looking exactly the way I want them, it just annoys me that in a particular browser (firefox) they look different to how they do everywhere else
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Thanks so much, I really apreciate it a lot.
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I use XP and have installed IE, FF and lately Safari for Windows. Maybe I do a little comparison that weekend.
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Très belle selection, comme d'habitude !
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Look particularly in the reds and oranges, and would you do me the huge favour of comparing this shot [link] in the different browsers. On my computer it has warm orange clouds with a touch of pink. That's how it looks in Safari, but in Firefox it's...well, cooler and the pinky oranges aren't there.
If you haven't got time, then no problem, but I'm curious to hear if you can see a difference.
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don't know if it's really useful to the discussion, but it's always something I keep in my mind when I'm photographing/retouching.
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Otherwise i have no help with the color management, but thanks for mentioning it, i only use firefox here, but i should take a look on the others browsers to c how my photos look like.
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TONY ELIEH
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